Tanzer 16 Dinghy Dock --added a roller--May 1, 2017 Spent all winter (and spring that felt like winter--it has been the wettest winter/spring in 126 years) thinking about how to make the dinghy dock easier to get the 400 lb+ Tanzer up on the bunks. I probably went down and looked at it five times, but couldn't come up with a plan.
Since the boat is going in the water in two days, I finally sucked it up and went down there in the rain with some string, sticks, and a measuring tape. The only improvement I could think of was to add another roller. It's the one with the lighter color wood. Dinked around and determined the height and position of the roller. Then I was able to make it at home.
The roller might be 1/2-inch high (we can remove the spacer between the 2 x 8's if we need to). We won't really know until we pull the boat up on the dock. Wish me luck--oh yeah, they are predicting lightening for our first race on Thursday. Luckily the marina has a bar.
Monday, May 1, 2017
Friday, April 21, 2017
Race Announcements -- 2017 -- May thru September
Weekly: Thursday evenings. We usually finish while there is still light to put the boat back on a trailer. 1st Series--May 4, May 18, June 1. Summer Series--June 15, June 29, July 13. August Series--July 27, August 10, August 24. There may be racing on the alternate Thursdays, but the committee has not organized that activity as of today. (check with me after May 11)
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| Eric was first to finish and first overall in our "Race to Somewhere." |
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| A rare photo of 1306 first at the starting line. (That's us.) |
Weekend Races/Regatta
Race to Somewhere. Saturday, August 19. We take off from the harbor area in Olympia and sail toward one of the nicest coves in South Sound, Gull Harbor, a distance of about 2.5 miles. Only two prizes First to finish and last. We eat a great lunch. Then there is a somewhat more serious race back to Olympia. The afternoon usually provides more steady winds. We finish in time to load trailers in the light. Last year a small fleet of 6 Mutineers beat all of us in the first race.
Dinghy Regatta. Sunday, September 10 (the week after Labor Day). Usually three races with longer courses than the Thursday night races.
Social Time. If Eric and find out that we will have some visiting Tanzers, we will arrange for some beer, pizza, and sailing talk. Please let us know. jslosson@aol.com If we get five visitors, maybe we will even come up with a trophy or a plaque. jim
Thursday, December 15, 2016
Tanzer 16--Stern up improves upwind peformance
Tanzer 16--Stern up improves upwind performance -- December 15, 2016 For a couple of years the two best racers in our little fleet said that we needed to put more weight forward when we were going upwind. Actually Kevin--the more colorful of the two--said, "Get the ass up in the air."
The fall regatta was a unique opportunity. Winds were light and variable, we had too much crew, and the committee boat was willing to take lots pictures. It was helpful that we race against two Harpoons that have approximately the same rating as our Tanzer. We had some great starts--different post--but obviously we weren't going to win any races--time to experiment.
If you were going for comfort and ease of moving about the cockpit, the boat would trim out like this. The stern is in the water, and it is, of course, aggravated by hanging an outboard on the back.
We intentionally tried different trims by putting my weight and Susan--not so much weight--as far forward as we could get. Tony pulled out the extension and scooted forward too. The boat trimmed out like this.
What we learned from these experiments:
The fall regatta was a unique opportunity. Winds were light and variable, we had too much crew, and the committee boat was willing to take lots pictures. It was helpful that we race against two Harpoons that have approximately the same rating as our Tanzer. We had some great starts--different post--but obviously we weren't going to win any races--time to experiment.
If you were going for comfort and ease of moving about the cockpit, the boat would trim out like this. The stern is in the water, and it is, of course, aggravated by hanging an outboard on the back.
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| At this particular moment we were headed down wind, but this weight dis- tribution gives an even worse case of stern down when you are headed upwind. |
We intentionally tried different trims by putting my weight and Susan--not so much weight--as far forward as we could get. Tony pulled out the extension and scooted forward too. The boat trimmed out like this.
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| In this picture Tony is still farther back. Susan and I are are up on the deck and the transom is all the way out of the water. |
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| In this photo we had Tony move forward while we sat on the deck. The stern is way out of the water, and the bow is probably down a little too much. |
What we learned from these experiments:
- Weight forward definitely improves tacking. With the weight forward, even when we were over-trimmed, the boat tacked as fast as the competition. It also was far less likely to get locked in irons even in light winds. In addition, it took a lot less rudder to turn through the eye of the wind. We assume that moving the weight forward, and thus altering the trim, moved the pivot point of the boat forward.
- Weight forward reduces wetted surface. This made the boat a little faster in the 3 - 5 knot winds. In general we were almost as fast as the Harpoons even with the extra weight. (Almost is not fast enough when you owe them a few seconds every 15 minutes.)
- Weight forward improved pointing--a little. We usually point almost as high as the competition, but with the weight forward it was improved slightly--they did not outpoint us. When we added a little makeshift barber hauler (not legal in class rules by the way) we pointed even a little higher. We could also get another degree by holding the boom up to weather. I have no doubt that the bridge style traveler is a better racing configuration than the standard traveler. But I doubt that I am a serious enough racer to make that change. For now we will just hold the boom when we are not sure we will make the weather mark.
- Weight forward is kind of a pain in the butt. For starters we should leave the outboard at home. The engine plus the bracket puts a lot of weight at the far end of the lever that is the boat sitting in the water. It takes a lot of weight to compensate for that 2 hp Honda which was pretty much the lightest four-stroke I could find. But it can be a long paddle back to the marina so the engine probably stays. Sitting forward of the centerboard trunk requires a lot of mobility for the crew. Since our youngest guy is 63 and I am 69, that is not a small issue.
So racing summary for the year. We continue to improve. We are not beating ourselves with bad maneuvers We did manage to beat a few boats now and ten. Kevin, did honor us with a hard luff at the starting line so that we had to do a 720 turn.* If we get the spinnaker thing working and keep our weight forward. We might just win some races.
*This will be a later post. In retrospect, I think maybe it wasn't a legal luff and I should have protested him. Maybe we were just giddy to start first a couple of times.
Sunday, November 6, 2016
Tanzer 16 hull - $200 -- No such thing as a free (cheap) boat
I was trolling the Craig's List ads this morning and came across this one. I did answer the ad. See my response below.
The seller replied:
I'd be fine with free and are you speaking of _____________ by chance? I'm not sure if I can keep it till may but if you're in the Olympia area I'll see what I can do.
My response was:
Yes, I know _________ from racing. I might be able to take it earlier than May since I have an empty trailer--wrong size. The problem is I have to get it here and build some stands so my neighbor can lift it with his tractor. I will just store it upside down until somebody needs it. I can't even start until we get back from Mexico.
And--I didn't even include that I just bought a Catalina that is up on blocks. I hope to have that ready to cruise in April too. Boats!
So if you have a badly damaged hull on a fully rigged boat, it might be worth a trip to Olympia, WA (the southernmost point of Puget Sound--60 miles south of Seattle) to acquire this hull.
Tanzer 16 hull - $200-Olympia
Complete hull for tanzer 16 boat. There is a racing class for this model, so just add sails and rigging and you are ready to go! No trailer but I will help you load onto yours. Watertight, pulled the drain plug for the seasonal rains but I have a brand new one ready to go back in to seal up tight. No title, will provide bill of sale. Open to trades for trailers and tools as well.
We are currently exchanging emails. Here was my reply:
Is this you __________. I might be willing to take it for free if all the wood is sound and there is no delamination. You would have to wait until May when I have my boat in the water so I could use my trailer.It would cost two to four thousand dollars to put together all the rigging and buy sails. However I have a spare set of sails so I might be able to get it into the water for about two grand. Does it have a tiller and rudder?So, make rudder--about $400make tiller $100mast$400 Heel$50 I have one Mast top unknown--hard to findBoom$200 Main$700 Jib$300 TracksCarsMain sheetMain sheet block and cleatShrouds and forestayJib sheets----and so much more!
Now that I have started to make the list, I think that $3000 might be optimistic. Actually the only reason I would need this boat is somebody punched a big, unfixable hole in the side of my boat.I just have a soft spot for these fine old boats and I don't want it cut up with a recip saw if it can be saved. Can we talk?
The seller replied:
I'd be fine with free and are you speaking of _____________ by chance? I'm not sure if I can keep it till may but if you're in the Olympia area I'll see what I can do.
My response was:
Yes, I know _________ from racing. I might be able to take it earlier than May since I have an empty trailer--wrong size. The problem is I have to get it here and build some stands so my neighbor can lift it with his tractor. I will just store it upside down until somebody needs it. I can't even start until we get back from Mexico.
And--I didn't even include that I just bought a Catalina that is up on blocks. I hope to have that ready to cruise in April too. Boats!
So if you have a badly damaged hull on a fully rigged boat, it might be worth a trip to Olympia, WA (the southernmost point of Puget Sound--60 miles south of Seattle) to acquire this hull.
Tuesday, October 25, 2016
Tanzer 16--No boats for sale--on either coast.
Tanzer 16--No boats for sale--on either coast--October 25, 2016 I am an early riser--usually 4:30 or so. I often sort through the Craig's list ads looking for Tanzer 16's. The asking price varies quite a bit, but mostly I am looking at the pictures. I want to see if other people have rigging ideas I missed. I start looking in Vancouver, BC. I work my way south and usually quit looking in San Francisco. I have never seen a Tanzer ad south of Sacramento--probably not a good boat for the Bay Area. Sometimes I look as far south as San Diego.
Then I check Quebec and Ottawa. After that I head over to the listings for Maine and work my way south to the Florida Keys then on up to Pensacola. Admittedly I don't check Ohio, the rest of the Mid-west or Texas. Yesterday a weird thing happened. There were no Tanzer 16's listed anywhere in my usual search grounds. Very odd! Never happened before. What does it mean? Probably nothing.
Then I check Quebec and Ottawa. After that I head over to the listings for Maine and work my way south to the Florida Keys then on up to Pensacola. Admittedly I don't check Ohio, the rest of the Mid-west or Texas. Yesterday a weird thing happened. There were no Tanzer 16's listed anywhere in my usual search grounds. Very odd! Never happened before. What does it mean? Probably nothing.
Sunday, September 18, 2016
Tanzer 16 Dinghy Dock Repairs
Tanzer 16 Dinghy Dock Repairs -- September 18, 2016 Mid September--it's rainy and cold on Puget Sound--so it turned out to be a good idea to tuck the boat in until spring. Now to deal with the dinghy dock. It's nice to go to the marina, just shove the boat in the water and sail. Launch and retrieve twice year.
But the dock needs work. Right now it takes two fairly strong guys and a two-speed winch to get the boat up on the bunks. Thinking new rails, longer bunks and a couple of additional rollers will make it easier. It would be sweet if I could launch and retrieve by myself.
But the dock needs work. Right now it takes two fairly strong guys and a two-speed winch to get the boat up on the bunks. Thinking new rails, longer bunks and a couple of additional rollers will make it easier. It would be sweet if I could launch and retrieve by myself.
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| Yes, it is a tad sad. |
Tuesday, September 13, 2016
Tanzer 16 - Buttoned up for the fall and winter
Tanzer 16 - Buttoned up for the fall and winter -- September 13, 2016 Took the boat out of the water yesterday--beautiful day--almost went sailing instead, but it's time to button things up until next season.
I'm luckier than most folks--we have a huge carport we call the covered bridge. The boat fits in there nicely. Plenty of airflow. The sails are stored in a heated garage. The boat cover will live there too.
Took my time putting her away. Checked everything, fixed a few pins on shackle pins. Everything is ready to go for next year--1st or 2nd week of May. I could fix a couple of paint dings--sometimes the starting line is pretty tight--but I will wait a another year or two and apply some more paint to the hull--maybe I'll flip it and paint the whole thing. (Much easier than the cockpit and deck.)
So nothing to do, but wait for spring--AND rebuild the dinghy dock ramp so I can launch and retrieve single-handed--AND do a few fixes to the Catalina 22 sitting in the shelter that formerly housed the RV.
Next--racing round-up--kind of painful. Think I will put it off awhile.
By the by, the latest version of the hinged mast requires 38 minutes to take the mast down all by yourself--no fuss, no stress, safe. I could have done it faster, but why?
I'm luckier than most folks--we have a huge carport we call the covered bridge. The boat fits in there nicely. Plenty of airflow. The sails are stored in a heated garage. The boat cover will live there too.
Took my time putting her away. Checked everything, fixed a few pins on shackle pins. Everything is ready to go for next year--1st or 2nd week of May. I could fix a couple of paint dings--sometimes the starting line is pretty tight--but I will wait a another year or two and apply some more paint to the hull--maybe I'll flip it and paint the whole thing. (Much easier than the cockpit and deck.)
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| Right of way issues--didn't protest. Probably should have. Bad form when you are having a lousy day. |
So nothing to do, but wait for spring--AND rebuild the dinghy dock ramp so I can launch and retrieve single-handed--AND do a few fixes to the Catalina 22 sitting in the shelter that formerly housed the RV.
Next--racing round-up--kind of painful. Think I will put it off awhile.
By the by, the latest version of the hinged mast requires 38 minutes to take the mast down all by yourself--no fuss, no stress, safe. I could have done it faster, but why?
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